[Misc] Val's Pretty Guide to Every Hero

Discussion in 'Published Guides' started by Val, Nov 17, 2009.

  1. Val

    Val Well-Known Member

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    The Alt-Tab Guide to Every Hero

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    This guide is now split by primary hero attribute because of a Playdota limit on the number of images per guide. You can find the individual parts at:

    • Click on the tavern icons to find your hero.
    • Brackets [ ] mean the item(s) is(are) optional.
    • Use common sense:
      • For supports and item-independent heroes, the Extension: list is more for giving interesting possibilities than an actual build order.
      • These builds are an attempt to describe builds that will work for a variety of skill levels. As a result, they are often optimal for none.
      • All builds should be adapted to each game.

    Credits
    This Guide has only been made possible through the helpful contributions of many people. You can find a detailed list here
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2011
  2. windrunner023

    windrunner023 Well-Known Member

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    If all the heroes are going to take up as much space as Abaddon, this is gonna be a very large guide. Still; this is starting to look good, nice concept, just need to format better and it'll be set.
     
  3. Morbius

    Morbius Well-Known Member

    I wish you the best when Icefrog releases 6.65 and all the heroes have been drastically changed. :p

    Also, I hope you spoiler these, if you don't its going to take forever to load the page.
     
  4. The Other Guy

    The Other Guy Well-Known Member

    Val's Pretty Alt+Tab Guide to Every Hero

    How to use: Press Ctrl+F and type in the hero you're looking for - success! Alternatively, simply click on the hero you wish to see and you will be automaticly linked to him/her.

    Note: These builds are an attempt to describe builds that will work for a variety of skill levels. As a result, they are often optimal for none. Any build should always be adapted to a particular game. Good luck; have fun!

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    Strength Heroes

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    @Val

    I had more of something like this in mind. I can do the formatting/linking and such. You could do the Skill/Itembuilds. Thoughts?
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2009
  5. Lycan

    Lycan Administrator

    names > icons to be honest....

    I favor the plain text guide for its clear vieuw to be honest....

    @ the other guy

    iirc the codes on PD don't allow hotlinking in that kind of way or has this been fixed in the meantime ?
     
  6. The Other Guy

    The Other Guy Well-Known Member

    You can link the image to the hero name I believe. Will double check.
     
  7. Audacious

    Audacious Well-Known Member

    Lol Like I am ever going to read that.

    Much rather read a high rated guide for my one specific hero.
     
  8. Val

    Val Well-Known Member

    @ToG: I wouldn't mind if you did the linking for it. It should work fine, but would be a pain. I suppose guide should be spoilered so this loads before the heat-death of the universe.

    @Lycan: I really like the plaintext too :D. That being said, making it easier to read for everyone is not a bad thing at all. I think the items are easier to understand this way than in text form. I do agree that the skills are a total mess.

    @Morbius: Thanks for the good wishes. I get lots of people in the strat forums to help me update my guide so it's usually done about 6 weeks after a new versoin comes out (I wait a couple before starting).

    @Audacious: My Alt+Tab guide and in-depth guides serve completely different purposes.

    @All: Once I've settled on the formatting I'll see if I can get strat-forum minions friends to help me process the 90-some heroes.
     
  9. Miklotov

    Miklotov Well-Known Member

    I assume somewhere in the future, this guide will be Abaddon-like format wise?
     
  10. Dirtnap.

    Dirtnap. Well-Known Member

    by the time you get this all pictured up, some things might change as far as skill builds and whatnot. although if they all look as good as loa this should be pretty badass.
     
  11. Miklotov

    Miklotov Well-Known Member

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    What about some brief explanation in a spoiler box explaining why/when to use the skill/item build.
    And a brief gameplay/role/playstyle will be great too.
     
  12. FunnyWarfare

    FunnyWarfare Well-Known Member

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    I thought about making a guide like this, too, but i was unsure about heroes i nearly never play. I've looked for my fav heroes here and wondered didn't saw anything wrong (tb, sylla, chen). very good work so far, better than i could i think :)
     
  13. Ali Radicali

    Ali Radicali Well-Known Member

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    If you want in-depth info, justifications, reasoning and gameplay tips, you want a real guide, not this one. This guide is meant for people who know how to play and just need an item/skill build.
     
  14. Miklotov

    Miklotov Well-Known Member

    Stuff like "Waning Rift for more aggressive play and Illusory Orb if you facing hard lane."

    or

    Playstyle

    Gank 24/7.
     
  15. Ali Radicali

    Ali Radicali Well-Known Member

    The strength of this guide is it's conciseness: Every description is short and simple, so you can reference the guide even in a game. Adding more info will ruin the "short and sweet" concept while the guide still can't compete with detailed single-hero guides in terms of in-depth info.
     
  16. Val

    Val Well-Known Member

    Hey all. Just typed up a somewhat different format for the LoA pretty version. Take a look. It keeps the items as pics, but puts the skills in a table. We could keep to the same colors for consistency. Yellow for Stats, Red for Ult, 3 colors (I used YellowGreen, RoyalBlue and SandyBrown) for the other skills. Look at it in the guide version instead of the forum version for best results: Val's Pretty Guide to Every Hero - DotA Guides

    Thoughts? I like the new one better.
     
  17. leomon235

    leomon235 Well-Known Member

    I like the new one myself, easier on the eyes, and newbies (who the guide is intended for) won't know what the skill icons represent.

    If you could, try to make it so the item names show up when you mouse over the icons (Dont think you can do that here, but its a thought)
     
  18. Miklotov

    Miklotov Well-Known Member

    In my opinion, newbie should know how to play a hero. Use one line sentence to describe what role the hero has.
     
  19. FunnyWarfare

    FunnyWarfare Well-Known Member

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    the version with the written skills looks strange on my pc. the skills 11-16 are not completely in the blue box
     
  20. iKrivetko

    iKrivetko Well-Known Member

    The idea looks great, so I though I can contribute.
    Here's the mini-guide from my Yurnero guide.

    NOTE: It's been edited to fit into a NQB+Spoiler, so it's quite narrow.

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    [noparse][B]Gameplay[/B]
    Always dual-lane with a slower/disabler.
    Gank when possible.
    Take down lone heroes.
    Refill your Bottle whenever possible.
    Farm with your Blade Fury whenever possible.
    Always have a TP.
    Only max out Blade Fury when you can no longer kill a creep wave with it.
    
    [B]Skill Build[/B]
    [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-0.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_icons/BTNStatUp.png[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-0.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_icons/BTNStatUp.png[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-0.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-3.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-2.gif[/IMG]
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    [IMG]http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_icons/BTNStatUp.png[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-3.gif[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/hero/71/skill-1.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.scrollsoflore.com/gallery/albums/war3_icons/BTNStatUp.png[/IMG]
    
    [B]Starting Items[/B]
    [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/16/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/23/thumb.jpg[/IMG][B] or [/B][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/24/thumb.jpg[/IMG]
    
    [B]Core Items + [COLOR="White"][[/COLOR] Extension [COLOR="White"]][/COLOR][/B]
    [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/66/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/81/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/25/thumb.jpg[/IMG][B] + [/B][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=589&pictureid=7728[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/68/thumb.jpg[/IMG][B] or [/B][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/73/thumb.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://www.playdota.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=589&pictureid=7729[/IMG]
    
    [B]Recommended Luxuries[/B]
    [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/125/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/106/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/74/thumb.jpg[/IMG]
    
    [B]Possible Luxuries[/B]
    [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/7/thumb.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.playdota.com/img/items/100/thumb.jpg[/IMG][/noparse]
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2009