Notveryclever, your problem is that people think everything should be suggestions and not discussion. If we segregate the discussion from the suggestions by creating a new subforum to get the discussions out of the way, that will only further enforce that suggestions-only mentality. What we really need is a very loud message. Something like, after the original post of every topic made here, a post is automatically generated under IceFrog's account saying in bright red letters: "This forum is about discussion, not just suggestions. Focus on discussing an idea rather than simply voting on it, etc etc."