[STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior[REMAKE]

Discussion in 'Hero Ideas' started by Nizaris, Sep 5, 2010.

  1. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

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    Ultimate Warrior
    Eyna

    Description: Because of Sentinel don't have female melee hero, i made one. Her role is a tank and anti-hero (arguable). She is a total damage dealing hero (also arguable). Surely she is not a support hero because have no disable and any supportive spells (kinda selfish :lol:), but she have 3 defensive skills and 3 offensive. She is a Hybrid. The defensive skill is for survival and stay longer while her only offensive is damage dealing from the ultimate that is the player must activate simultaneously to give higher damage. So before reaching level 6, the player must play defensive.

    [nqb]Background Story: Eyna is a special trained Watcher in combat. She is fearless in combat and can face any enemies with defensive and offensive tactics. She learn how to survive long in any battle. She is the force to be reckon with.Her goal is to become an ultimate warrior for the Sentinel.[/nqb]
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Strength - 22 + [2.0]
    Agility - 18 + [2.0]
    Intelligence - 20 + [2.0][/table][/table]

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    [table]Affiliation:|Sentinel
    Damage:|45-55
    Armor:|2.5
    Movespeed:|300
    Starting HP/MP:|568/260
    Attack Range:|melee[/table]|[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
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    Back Fire – Autocast
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: e[/table]|With training, she learn to back fire hex, stun and slow attacks to her to the one who cast it although not perfectly [/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|50|11|-|-|-|back fire hex, slow and stun cast on her to the caster with random duration
    2|40|9|-|-|-|back fire hex, slow and stun cast on her to the caster with random duration
    3|30|7|-|-|-|back fire hex, slow and stun cast on her to the caster with random duration
    4|20|5|-|-|-|back fire hex,slow and stun cast on her to the caster with random duration[/table]
    [nqb]
    • auto activated when hex, stun and slow cast on her
    • the casters who got stunned, slowed and hexed with random duration
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    B]Asorb[/B] – Passive
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: -[/table]|she learn to block some of all type damage and convert it into her mana[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|-|-|-|-|-|10% damage blocked replenish mana
    2|-|-|-|-|-|20% damage blocked replenish mana
    3|-|-|-|-|-|30% damage blocked replenish mana
    4|-|-|-|-|-|40% damage blocked replenish mana [/table]
    [nqb]
    • percentage of the damage she resist add to her mana pool
    • as for code issue, it is like this, when she receive let say 100 damage, she block 10%, now what add to her mana is not from 10% of 100 actually but 10% from 100 out of no where. So it will be as if she block the damage and replenish her mana
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    Healing – Autocast Healing
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: g[/table]|The ability to heal wound in combat is crucial for a warrior. Eyna can heal wound for each seconds[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|20|1|-|-|-|heal 20 HP
    2|20|1|-|-|-|heal 30 HP
    3|20|1|-|-|-|heal 40 HP
    4|20|1|-|-|-|heal 50 HP [/table]
    [nqb]
    • when autocast, healing is automatic whenever HP drop from initial value
    • mana drained each seconds for healing
    • Similar like Diablo 2 Paladin "Pyarer Aura" to compare with
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    Strike – Toggle Attack
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Attack
    Targeting: enemy unit
    Hotkey: t[/table]|Different techniques in using her special weapon[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|-|-|-|-|-|Level 1
    2|-|-|-|-|-|Level 2
    3|-|-|-|-|-|Level 3 [/table]
    [nqb][/nqb][​IMG]

    Sub Skills

    Strike – Toggle Attack
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Attack
    Targeting: enemy unit
    Hotkey: z[/table]|Heavy strike on an enemy[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|100|15|melee|-|-| +150 physical damage
    2|125|10|melee|-|-| +225 physical damage
    3|150|5|melee|-|-| +300 physical damage [/table]
    [nqb]
    • damage is physical
    • damage is add from current damage
    • must press hotkey toggle a target and click
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    Strike – Toggle Attack
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Attack
    Targeting: enemy unit
    Hotkey: x[/table]|Leap into the air and give a blow when land on enemy[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|100|15|600|-|-| +150 pure damage
    2|125|10|700|-|-| +225 pure damage
    3|150|5|800|-|-| +300 pure damage[/table]
    [nqb]
    • damage is pure
    • damage is add from current damage
    • must press hotkey toggle a target and click
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    Strike – Toggle Attack
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Attack
    Targeting: enemy unit
    Hotkey: c[/table]|Strike all enemies at one time.[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|100|15|melee|600|-| +150 damage, 100 damage to all enemies, magic
    2|125|10|melee|600|-| +175 damage, 125 damage to all enemies, magic
    3|150|5|melee|600|-| +200 damage, 150 damage to all enemies, magic[/table]
    [nqb]
    • damage is magical
    • when hit on target, all enemies 360 degree in 600 AoE from her receive damage.
    • must press hotkey toggle a target and click
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    September
    -remove +AS from ultimate
    -tweaking the cooldown in skill 1
    -tweaking +MS in skill 1
    -increase casting range in skill 1
    -remove the casting range in skill 1
    -tweaking skill 1 and 2
    -changing the damage for skill 1 to Physical
    -reduce mana cost for skill 2
    -reduce the cooldown for skill 2
    -changing the hero from STR to AGI
    -changing from AGI to STR
    -changing skill 1
    -changing ultimate
    -increase the cooldown for skill 1
    -increase mana cost for skill 3
    -again increase mana cost for skill 3[
    -reduce cooldown in skill 1 and 2
    -changing the effect of ultimate, add primary attribute more than other attribute and increase mana cost and cool down as Hellhound suggest
    -level the mana cost of the ultimate
    -increase stats gain
    -change skill 2
    Shield – Buff
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: buff
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: e[/table]|Using her inner strength to create a protective barrier on her skin making her more resistance to any type of wound[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|75|20|-|-|10|resist 20% damage
    2|100|20|-|-|10|resist 30% damage
    3|125|20|-|-|10|resist 40% damage
    4|150|20|-|-|10|resist 50% damage[/table]
    [nqb]
    • resist all type of damage in duration
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    -reduce skill 1 cd to 10 seconds
    -making skill 1 into 3 subskills
    -reduce the damage in skill 1/2 and skill 1/3, also reduce the cooldowns
    -tweaking the damages
    -remake
    -remove the ultimate
    Ultimate Warrior - Buff
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: buff
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: r[/table]|She summons her inner power to make her an Ultimate Warrior by increasing her strength, guile and wisdom[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|200|60|-|-|20|+10 STR, +5 AGI, +5 INT
    2|200|60|-|-|20|+30 STR, +15 AGI, + 15 INT
    3|200|60|-|-|20|+50 STR, +25 AGI, + 25 INT[/table]
    [nqb]
    • all attribute add temporarily according to number
    [/nqb]
    -making skill 1 as ultimate
    -add new skill
    -change skill 1
    -tweaking skill 1 as Sven2k suggestion
    -change skill 1 effect into percentage
    -reduce mana cost in skill 4/1 and increase the range
    -increase stats
    -making correction to skill 4/3
    -reducing mana cost, cooldown and damage in ultimate
    -put in hex in skill 1
    -change damage type to pure in skill 4/2
    -tweaking skill 4/1
    -tweaking skill 3
    -remove skill 2
    Healing – Autocast Healing
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: g[/table]|The ability to heal wound in combat is crucial for a warrior. Eyna can heal wound for each seconds[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|20|1|-|-|-|heal 20 HP
    2|20|1|-|-|-|heal 30 HP
    3|20|1|-|-|-|heal 40 HP
    4|20|1|-|-|-|heal 50 HP [/table]
    [nqb]
    • when autocast, healing is automatic whenever HP drop from initial value
    • mana drained each seconds for healing
    • Similar like Diablo 2 Paladin "Pyarer Aura" to compare with
    [/nqb][​IMG]

    -add new skill
    -return skill 2 to original, correcting the detail
    -change skill 1
    Resist – Autocast
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: e[/table]|With training, she learn to resist hex, stun and slow attacks[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|50|11|-|-|-|decrease hex, slow and stun duration cast on her by 50%
    2|40|9|-|-|-|decrease hex, slow and stun duration cast on her by 50%
    3|30|7|-|-|-|decrease hex, slow and stun duration cast on her by 50%
    4|20|5|-|-|-|decrease hex,slow and stun duration cast on her by 50%[/table]
    [nqb]
    • auto activated when hex, stun and slow cast on her
    • as for code issue, i have read Mountain Giant can reduce stun and slow efect on them, so i think there will be no problem
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    -change skill 2
    Asorb – Passive
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: autocast
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: -[/table]|she learn to block some of all type damage and convert it into her mana[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|-|-|-|-|-|10% damage blocked replenish mana
    2|-|-|-|-|-|20% damage blocked replenish mana
    3|-|-|-|-|-|30% damage blocked replenish mana
    4|-|-|-|-|-|40% damage blocked replenish mana [/table]
    [nqb]
    • percentage of the damage she resist add to her mana pool
    • as for code issue, it is like this, when she receive let say 100 damage, she block 10%, now what add to her mana is not from 10% of 100 actually but 10% from 100 out of no where. So it will be as if she block the damage and replenish her mana
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    -change skill 3
    Drain - Magic
    [table] [​IMG]|[table]Type: magic
    Targeting: units
    Hotkey: r[/table]|Drain enemies spiritual energy to heal self and allies[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|100|30|-|600|10|drain 10 enemies mana, heal 10 self and allies Hp
    2|125|30|-|600|10|drain 20 enemies mana, heal 20 self and allies HP
    3|150|30|-|600|10|drain 30 enemies mana, heal 30 self and allies HP
    4|175|30|-|600|10|drain 40 enemies mana, heal 40 self and allies HP[/table]
    [nqb]
    • animation should be like Mana Shield but effect like fountain
    • drain enemies mana in 600 AoE surround her and heal self and allies in 600 AoE surround her
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    >change again
    Rejuvenation Aura – Passive Aura
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: passive aura
    Targeting: self
    Hotkey: self and units[/table]|She is blessed with an aura that can heal physical and spiritual[/table]

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    [table]|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|-|-|-|600|-|2 HP and MP regen/sec
    2|-|-|-|600|-|4 HP and MP regen/sec
    3|-|-|-|600|-|8 HP and MP regen/sec
    4|-|-|-|600|-|10 HP and MP regen/sec [/table]
    [nqb]
    • regen HP and MP for self and allies in AoE
    [/nqb][​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2010
  2. Cainer

    Cainer Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Is she STR or AGI then???

    Stats are fine.

    1st skill: With Power Threads you gain 530 MS on lvl 2! Decrease it. A lot. Something like 20/25/30/35 should be enough.
    2nd skill: Imba. Compare with other defensive skills. 50% reduction to everything in 2/3 of time. Bristleback have 40% reduction when hit on back.
    3rd skill: I don't think it fits her theme. First skill and ulti provides run&kill strategy, so heal is not the right thing. If you want to say "but Yurnero has heal too", IMO it doesn't fit Yurnero too :)
    4th skill: Ok, but too simple. Not original at all.

    Summary: Nerf, remake 3rd skill and perhaps ulti to some more original skill. Every skill except first one is too simple. Icons should be changed too, but it is just a visual that doesn't have influence on hero.
     
  3. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    STR :lol:

    It is temporary for the attack only and can be canceled by blocking and spell casting (slow,stun,ect)

    It is temporary also...only for 10 seconds. she will run out of mana to always activate it.

    she will not always run and kill :):

    Yunero is AoE heal, she is not. And it is autocast, whenever she got hit, it will drain mana to heal. Tell me which hero have similar skill to make this one not original as you say it?

    I want to make her simple, and i love simple hero. 3rd skill is original. About her ultimate, it is original too..and it is (so called) synergy with 1st skill...and she have no nuclear power...

    About icons, well....

    Thanks for your comment :):
     
  4. Lotus V Eater

    Lotus V Eater Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    yeah..the concept of your 3rd skill is indeed original, but it is not suit with this hero IMO. it is very priest-ish...
     
  5. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    :lol: i always thought healing more suit a fighter/warrior...self healing. :):
     
  6. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Change somethings in the skill

    1. reduce cd in skill 1, making her can chase heroes always in level 4. Imagine if heroes keep running away, she can chase them.

    2. reduce +MS in skill 1 and increase casting range in skill 1

    3. remove +AS in the ultimate

    I believe she is a good hero.

    Synergy...

    All useful in her role....
     
  7. feelthless

    feelthless Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Don't take this personally but your hero is very unoriginal. Try to make a hero that introduces new gameplay to dota, not something boring. Just a friendly advice :)
     
  8. LightningMouse

    LightningMouse Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Very nice combination of the basics.

    Strike's scaling is quite exponential, I think the numbers would be better if the cooldown was standardized at 15 in coordination with Shield.

    Attack damage is her forte.

    Healing is my favorite of her abilities, it would only be usefull in an extended team fight however, because of her natural desire to contribute damage.

    I think in favor of the evolution of the game, Strike's attack damage should be changed to Physical.

    Also, Shield would be more balanced if the mana cost was lowered, and the duration was altered to 5 seconds.

    If the emphasis of her abilities was shifted away from attack damage, and she prefered Agility for the attack speed and armor, I think that she would make a better in combat healer.

    She is quite similar to the Vengeful Spirit, but the flavor of her added healing ability makes her more intriguing.

    For the best result thou, I think that it is necessary to give the Healing spell to a non-combat hero with a different model.

    I imagine the Wisp healing for some reason, using a green regeneration animation. Those kinds of things are important to think about, I think.
     
  9. KyonoRocks

    KyonoRocks Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    I have to agree with Feelthless, this is really boring and really unoriginal. Seriously, the most dull hero suggestion I've ever read. I don't understand, most hero suggestions (bad or good) are crazy and over the top... it's your imagination at work! But this one... it's just bleeerrrrggggghhhhhhhhh. Use some ambition man!

    Even has a passive ult... who designs a hero whose best ability is a passive?. The ult is meant to be OMGWTF?!!?!?
     
  10. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Thank you, that is what i trying to do, very basic hero

    I lowering the cd because of she don't have nuke, so thinking that she could use it very often. But maybe you are right.

    maybe i made both 10 instead :):

    She maybe suitable as AGI hero after few consideration, she is fast and quick hero, AGI bonus level up will +AS and damage. Maybe i make her AGI hero instead.

    Edit : i level up cd for skill 1 and 2, so both have the same cd. Change her to AGI hero.
     
  11. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    Centaur Warchief have passive ultimate....
     
  12. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    this will be a very uber hero... i think. :(
     
  13. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    This will be a very good hero in DotA :):
     
  14. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    please.... a female hero that is str??!! well, that is new. but with the present skills that you are presenting, i think it will not work out. (sad to say :()

    your cd are too short really. that is not fair.
    what cainer said in the first skill is true. NERF IT!
    your ulti is really just similar to centaur.

    lets explore more:
    2nd skill shield: omg! while the duration is still on, the cd is already gone? increase it!
    3rd skill heal: oh no... increase mc please... every 1 second 50hp with only 10 mc, are you serious?! no, just no.
    4th skill: like what i said, very similar to centuar's ulti....

    like what the others said... lack of uniqueness and originality.
    Balance is also somewhat down.
    synergy: i can see it, but not much. i know use 1st, then second, when damaged much use 3rd and 4th will be help for gankers like her... but... hmm... idk... something's missing here.
     
  15. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    I have changed to AGI, but female STR is nothing wrong with it. What, do you think women are weak? I thought DotA is not male chauvinist...

    What similarity?

    Laguna Blade can wipe out 1000 HP with Aghanim, so 50HP/sec for 10 mana is nothing actually...

    I know what missing...stun and slow right? :rofl:

    Typos skill...
     
  16. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    im not saying that... i just said that its new. but it will not work out with those skills because its really somewhat imba in here.


    oh, c'mon! centaur, trax and yours (and the ones you make in the cth) have the same ultimate.

    centaur boosts strength
    traxex boosts agility
    alyssa boosts intelligence (ur cth entry)
    and now, HER! boosts damage...
    what's next boosts stats and armor? :rofl:

    those ultimate are just uber to use so enough of that...

    can be true. but do not only focus on one skill. think about the other heroes.

    not all heroes doesn't need to have that ability. and that's not what i meant.

    sorry for being harsh but i think its true.
     
  17. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [AGI][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    I change her back to STR because i feel the male chauvinism sentiment here....

    The skill is balanced...

    Mortred also have passive ultimate...so what is the problem? There is no problem with it.

    What? You become senseless...

    If i put in "Stun 2 seconds" or "Slow 50% MS"...or "ministun 0.5 sec each attack"...i will got many review for this hero....:rofl:
     
  18. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    then do what you want. its your hero after all.
     
  19. Nizaris

    Nizaris Banned

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    so why complaining?
     
  20. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Re: [STR][Sent]Eyna The Ultimate Warrior

    im not complaining. im just trying to help make your hero better. -_-