Russia bombing ISIS in Syria

Discussion in 'World News & Debates' started by TheImperial, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. TheImperial

    TheImperial Well-Known Member

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    So what do you think? Is it good or bad from your point of view? What do you think about goatshit laughable accusations of civilian casualties? And overall what will happen next?
     
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  2. Domenico

    Domenico Moderator

    What a nice and absolutely not heavy-handed way to start civil discussion.
     
  3. SmellyJelly

    SmellyJelly Well-Known Member

  4. TheImperial

    TheImperial Well-Known Member

    Because I can't call anything else blunt lies with photos that were taken several days before bombing.

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    Yes, US is very upset about someone's breaking their expensive toys. I also like how west medial often calls "rebels" straightforward terrorists so I see no problem bombing these US-sponsored "rebels". Many of them will most likely join isis or sell them weapons obtained from US.
     
  5. abdo1234

    abdo1234 Well-Known Member

    oh this is getting interesting *grabs popcorn*
     
  6. Rickaby

    Rickaby Well-Known Member

    Inb4 people blindly praising politicians thinking that they perfectly understand their plans.
     
  7. Khassar

    Khassar Well-Known Member

    They're praised now. Fast forward a couple of years and Russia is blamed for escalating the crisis and taking advantage of the native populace.
     
  8. Eli_Green

    Eli_Green Well-Known Member

    aka what the west has been doing for years.

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    Assad and ISIS are enemies.
     
  9. Khassar

    Khassar Well-Known Member

    Not my point, but there are many parallels to draw. USA invades Iraq to overthrow Husein, USA gets praised, Iraq continues to detoriate, USA gets blamed. If the Russia continues to attack ISIS, the praise will continue, then things will eventually get worse, and Russia will get blamed for 'causing' the trouble in Syria.
     
  10. Amiscar

    Amiscar Well-Known Member

    Finally someone is doing something useful. Props to Putin for having some balls.
     
  11. TheImperial

    TheImperial Well-Known Member

    US invaded Iraq, Russia is conducting military operation on foreign soil by the request of a legitimate government. US wanted to overthrow current government, Russia wants to protect current regime from terrorist organization. These are the differences.
     
  12. Khassar

    Khassar Well-Known Member

    And in a few years Russia will be vilified for helping a brutal dictator, just like it would be vilified for overthrowing a legitimate government if it was anti-Assad. I'm not arguing about right and wrong, I'm just saying that interventions of any kind, scale, intent or effect in Middle East never helped in the good run, no matter who intervened.
     
  13. Eli_Green

    Eli_Green Well-Known Member

    in a few years?

    where do you live m8, Russia has been vilified since the end of world war 2.
     
  14. Khassar

    Khassar Well-Known Member

    That has nothing to do with my post.
     
  15. 2ez4dondi

    2ez4dondi Well-Known Member

    He means that Russia doesn't really care as it's permanently being made the villain since many years ago. So why should they care? Might as well enjoy the short time of praise rather than do nothing and still be blamed.
     
  16. Khassar

    Khassar Well-Known Member

    That makes sense. Still, I was speaking in general that intervention has negative consequences to the country's PR, and doesn't really solve anything in the long run.
     
  17. 2ez4dondi

    2ez4dondi Well-Known Member

    Who knows, we don't really have 100 examples of it, we only got the example with the US. For all we know this could speed up ending the war and finally bring peace and prosperity to Syria, as far fetched as it may sound.
     
  18. ToT712

    ToT712 Well-Known Member

    Took them long enough. The other side had massive foreign support for years.
     
  19. Domenico

    Domenico Moderator

    Since the end of WW2? Do "gendarme of Europe" or "Njet, Molotoff" (correction: should've mentioned origins of the name "molotov cocktail" instead) ring any bells? And that is just XX century. Foreign affairs were always dirty business and there are always more than one agenda pretty much by definition of foreign affair, so of course there will always be what you can call "vilification" of pretty much whoever is involved.

    I also didn't see any "praising" past interventions, nor do I see it now. There are always people who can get along with narrative, there are those concerned about costs, and then there are those on the business end, directly or indirectly.

    On the matter of civilian casualties: show me such operations, especially long term, that didn't involve such. They may be "goatshit" now, but I don't even know it's possible to keep it this way for long, especially when lines between militants, "just kinda supporters" and the rest are so thin.
     
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  20. Mr. BoB

    Mr. BoB Well-Known Member

    CIA and MOSSAD getting B T F O

    God bless Russia.