Hero names and Titles

Discussion in 'Visuals' started by GEBnaman, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. GEBnaman

    GEBnaman Well-Known Member

    After stumbling across a number of threads that suggest to change Title names and skill names to better fit the overall theme of the character, I decided to make an extensive list of the ones I've seen and added a few of my own.
    This is all in the attempt to make the game DotA sound more professional and more flowing in terms of it's heroes and the themes they bring, as well as remove redundant hero titles or perhaps improve on them (to make them sound more badass, or fit the theme better)
    The way I judge on the sound of a heroes name and title, is by sounding it out (Heroes Name) The level (level of Hero) (Title of hero)
    E.g. Kardel Sharpeye, the level 1 Dwarven Sniper. IMO, it has a good ring to it =P

    Feel free to contribute your thoughts and ideas.
    If you'd like to contribute keep to this format to make things easier.
    Faction, Primary Attribute, Name/Title
    Suggested Name - Suggested Title(Your username)

    You don't have to change both Name and title in your suggestion, it can be just one or the other
    e.g. Suggestion
    Scourge, Strength, Azgalor - Pitlord
    Ass-galore - Armpits (GEBnaman)


    Finally, before you suggest, please think it through on where the problem in the current one lies and/or how your suggestion is MORE fitting than the current one.

    [tab]Sentinel|Neutral|Scourge
    [tab]Strength|Agility|Intelligence
    [​IMG]
    [table] Current | Suggestions
    [​IMG] Kunkka - Admiral(P.S Admiral is the highest attainable rank in the navy) |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Rexxar - Beastmaster|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Bradwarden - Centaur Warchief|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Raigor Stonehoof - Earthshaker|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Purist Thunderwrath - Omniknight|
    • Purist Thunderwrath - Holy Paladin
    • Purist Thunderwrath - Light/Divine Paladin(invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Mangix - Pandaren Brewmaster|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Sven - Rogue Knight|
    • Sven - Divine Warrior

    [​IMG] Tiny - Stone Giant|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Cairne Bloodhoof - Tauren Chieftain|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Rooftrellen - Treant Protector|
    • Rooftrellen - Keeper of the Grove(SanTa ClaWs)
    • Rooftrellen - Ancient Protector/Forest Guardian(invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Io - Guardian Wisp|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet
    [/table]{|}[​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Magina - Anti-Mage|
    • Magina - Mage Slayer
    • Azurewrath - Mage Hunter(invul_nerable)
    • Magina - Mana Breaker(cp14)

    [​IMG] Kardel Sharpeye - Dwarven Sniper|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Yurnero - Juggernaut|
    • Yurnero - Blade Master

    [​IMG] Syllabear - Lone Druid|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Luna Moonfang - Moon Rider|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Morphling - Morphling (lol)| Already an extensive suggestion thread, here's the link.
    [​IMG] Slithice - Naga Siren|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Azwraith - Phantom Lancer|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Mirana Nightshade - Priestess of the Moon|
    • Mirana - Moon Priestess
    • Mirana Nightshade - Priestess of Elune(invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Rikimaru - Stealth Assasin|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Aurel Vlaicu - Gyrocopter|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet
    [/table]{|}
    [​IMG][table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Rylai Crestfallen - Crystal Maiden|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Aiushtha - Enchantress|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG]Puck - Faerie Dragon|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Chen - Holy Knight|
    • Chen - Holy Sorcerer (-IDenkaiI-)

    [​IMG] Ezalor - Keeper of the Light|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Zeus - Lord of Olympus|
    • Thor - God of Thunder

    [​IMG] Furion - Prophet|
    • Furion - Forest Guardian
    • Furion - Archdruid (Duke Nukem)

    [​IMG] Nortrom - Silencer|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Lina Inverse - Slayer|
    • Lina - Pyromancer

    [​IMG] Raijin Thunderkeg - Storm Spirit|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Alleria - Windrunner|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Thrall - Far Seer|
    • Thrall - Thunder Shaman(SanTa ClaWs)
    • Thrall - Lightning/Thunder Shaman/Seer(SanTa ClaWs,invul_nerable)
    • Thrall - Storm Warchief (vot1_bear)

    [/table]
    [/tab]{|}
    [tab]Strength|Agility|Intelligence
    [​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Razzil Darkbrew - Alchemist|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Rigwarl - Bristleback|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Rattletrap - Clockwork Goblin|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Knight Davion - Dragon Knight|
    • Knight Davion - Dragon Knight
    • Sir Davion - Dragon Knight(JJE92)

    [​IMG] Magnus - Magnataur|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Huskar - Sacred Warrior|
    • Huskar - Troll Berserker

    [​IMG] Crixalis - Sand King|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Barathrum - Spiritbreaker|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Leviathan - Tidehunter (Sounds like he's looking for a good place to surf =P)|
    • Leviathan - Sea Behemoth
    [/table]
    {|}
    [​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Gondar - Bounty Hunter|
    • Gondar - Mercenary
    • Gondar - Dranei Hunter/Ninja (NoThlng)

    [​IMG] Traxex - Drow Ranger|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Darkterror - Faceless Void|
    • Darkterror - Eternal Void
    • Darkterror - The Timeless One (blackra1n)
    • Darkterror - Timeless Void(invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Meepo - Geomancer|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Razor - Lightning Revenant|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Medusa - Gorgon|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Lanaya - Templar Assassin|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Ulfsaar - Ursa Warrior|
    • Ulfsaar - Ursa Champion

    [​IMG] Shendelzare Silkwood - Vengeful Spirit|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Slark - Murloc Nightcrawler|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [/table]
    {|}
    [​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Jin'zakk - Batrider|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Squee, Spleen and Spoon - Goblin Techies|
    • Squee, Spleen and Spoon - Goblin Saboteurs

    [​IMG] Kael - Invoker|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Visage - Neco'lic|
    • Necro'lic - Undertaker(Not in reference to the Wrestler, but the occupation)
    • Visage - The Gravekeeper(SanTa ClaWs)

    [​IMG] Aggron Stonebreaker - Ogre Magi|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Dazzle - Shadow Priest|
    • Dah'Zuul - Elder Troll(Munckee)

    [​IMG] Rhasta - Shadow Shaman|
    • Rhasta - Vodoo Shaman (Lithary)

    [​IMG] Boush - Tinker|
    • Boush - Demolition Expert
    • Tinker - Demolition's Expert

    [​IMG] Leshrac the Malicious - Tormented Soul|
    • (JUST)Leshrac - Tormented Soul
    • Leshrac - Malicious Soul/Spirit

    [​IMG] Jakiro - Twin Headed Dragon|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Vol'Jin - Witch Doctor |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Kaldr - Ancient Apparition|
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet
    [/table]
    [/tab]
    {|}
    [tab]Strength|Agility|Intelligence
    [​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Mogul Khan - Axe |
    • Mogul Khan - The Berserker(blackra1n + Some Lulz)

    [​IMG] Nessaj - Chaos Knight |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Lucifer - Doom Bringer |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] N'aix - Lifestealer |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Abbadon - Lord of Avernus (Not entirely sure what or where Avernus is) |
    • Abbadon - Death Knight(NoThlng)

    [​IMG] Banehollow - Lycanthrope |
    • Banehollow - Lycan (More straightforward)

    [​IMG] Balanar - Night Stalker |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Azgalor - Pitlord |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Pudge - Butcher |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] King Leoric - Skeleton King |
    • [*]King Leoric - Skeleton King
    • King Leoric - Hellrazer
    • King Leoric - Hellfire King(invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Slardar - Slithereen Guard |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Dirge - Undying |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet
    [/table]
    {|}
    [​IMG]
    [table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Strygwyr - Blood Seeker |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Clinks - Bone Fletcher |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Black Arachnia - Broodmother |
    • Tsuchigumo(Japanese Folklore) - Broodmother
    • Broodmother - Black Arachnia
    • Archilla - Broodmother

    [​IMG] Anub'arak - Nerubian Assassin |
    • Anub'arak - Crypt Lord([P]rokatdn)

    [​IMG] Anub'seran - Nerubian Weaver |
    • Anub'seran - (Nerubian) Timeweaver (cp14, JJE92)

    [​IMG] Mortred - Phantom Assassin |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet


    [​IMG] Nevermore - Shadow Fiend |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Terrorblade - Soul Keeper |
    • Terrorblade - Soul Stealer(SanTa ClaWs)

    [​IMG] Mercurial - Spectre |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Lesale Deathbringer - Venomancer |
    • Lesale Deathsting - Venomancer(SanTa ClaWs)

    [​IMG] Viper - Netherdrake |
    • Viper - Venomdrake(SanTa ClaWs)
    [/table]
    {|}
    [​IMG][table]Current|Suggested
    [​IMG] Atropos - Bane Elemental |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Ish'kafel - Dark Seer |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Krobelus - Death Prophet |
    • Krobelus - Banshee Queen/Mistree (invul_nerable)

    [​IMG] Lion - Demon Witch |
    • Lion - Demon Wizard(McCannilbal9he says that Witch is a female term for one that uses magic and wizard is the masculine version. Very true =]0)

    [​IMG] Darchrow - Enigma |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Kel'thuzad - Lich |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Rotund'jere - Necrolyte |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Pugna - Oblivion |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Harbinger - Obsidian Destroyer |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Akasha - Queen of Pain |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Demnok Lannik - Warlock |
    • Current is fine or no suggestions yet

    [​IMG] Eredar - Shadow Demon | [/table]
    [/tab]
    [/tab]

    P.S These suggestions don't always mean something is wrong with the current one (Although for some, something IS wrong).
    Also, it is very subjective, but I won't take suggestions that I personally dislike, since I feel that my judgment is enough to see which suggestions are ridiculous. Providing sufficient reasoning can persuade me however :D
     
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2010
  2. jesusatan

    jesusatan Well-Known Member

    It would be easier for me if you hadn't listed all the heroes, but just these whose names should be changed.
     
  3. -IDenkaiI-

    -IDenkaiI- Well-Known Member

    Kinda nice thread. I have a lot of good titles :D
     
  4. dreamcatcher0

    dreamcatcher0 Well-Known Member

    Sorry. But I would have to say no to all your suggestions. They are just fine. Most players are used to it especially with Lina, Sven and Zeus.
     
  5. Duke Nukem

    Duke Nukem Well-Known Member

    I prefer having original titles over copying the ladder titles (Juggernaut > Blade Master, Sacred Warrior > Troll Berserker). Omniknight is much better and original than Holy Knight.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  6. PAraflaXet

    PAraflaXet Member

    Huuge t-d. Just can't see why this is necessary and your suggestions just sounds silly.
     
  7. The Emanescence

    The Emanescence Well-Known Member

    this is a great suggestion dude! I might contribute here and there. It's just my mind is now blank that i cant think of any.

    just random thoughts. No flames ok.

    Dazzle - Troll Cultist?

    Lion - Renegade/Dark Wizard?

    Lucifer - Hell Overseer?

    if furion will be change

    Chen - Prophet

    i truly dig the necrolic - undertaker, rouge knight - divine warrior change.
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2010
  8. -IDenkaiI-

    -IDenkaiI- Well-Known Member

    Here's a list of suggestion, I hope you like them ^^

    [​IMG] Kendrick Thunderwrath - Holy Paladin (Personally, I've always found "Purist" just lame.
    [​IMG] Tiny - Stone Hill Giant :lol:
    [​IMG] Aiushtha - Enchanting Dryad
    [​IMG] Chen - Holy Sorcerer (He doesnt look like a "knight")
    [​IMG] Grizz Lyzenbear - Ursa Warrior
    [​IMG] Khan Harrowblade - Axe
     
  9. Sven2k

    Sven2k Moderator

    t-down
     
  10. SanTa ClaWs

    SanTa ClaWs Well-Known Member

    Rooftrellen- Keeper of the Grove (KotGā„¢)
    Thrall - Lightning Shaman (cause the orkish mage is called shaman :))
    Visage - The Gravekeeper (will suit his gravekeeper's cloak. Grave Chill and perhaps rename his ultiamte to Gravekeeper's Servants)
    Archilla - Broodmother.
    Lesale Deathsting - Venomancer
    Terrorblade - Soul Stealer (he doesn't keep any souls right?)
    Viper - Venomdrake
    Cosmos - Enigma (just a thought)
    Arador - Gnoll Hellbringer (sounds badass :D) Or Arador - Gnoll Trorurer... anything but Eredar! Eredar = Eredar Warlock.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  11. Plate12

    Plate12 Well-Known Member

    Some of the suggestions sound nice like Sven and Leshrac, , but some doesnt, like Zeus and Lycan. But some are even too classic to change.
     
  12. Vot1_Bear

    Vot1_Bear Well-Known Member

    It's Ulfsaar not Ulfusaar! How dare you spoil the awesome name of ursa!
    Anyway, Warrior is already unique. Change knight to champion instead (chaos/rogue champion sounds cool to me)

    Anyway, the only thing imo that needs change is:
    -Chen's holy knight. really hate "knight" on a int mage.
    -Eredar. Shadow is overused, but i prefer the "gnoll torturer" sugg. just too lazy to give link.
    -Your knight davion -> Davion isn't bad too.

    Others, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THEM. no matter how little they make sense to you, imo they are cool (techies>saboteur, techies sounds cooler and smarter. tinker>demolition, demolition makes him sounds like a huge brainless hero blasting things mindlessly).
    Only change the ones that needs changing because it is overused, especially "shadow" and "assassin" heroes.
     
  13. blackra1n

    blackra1n Well-Known Member

    Yurnero - Orchish Swordchampion
    Rattletrap - Robotic Terrorist
    Harbinger - Mana Manipulator
    Akasha - The Torturer
    Darkterror - The Timeless One
    Kardel Sharpeye - Eagle's Eye
    Anub'Seran - Possessor of Time
    Kel'Thuzad - Freezing Existance
     
  14. Szpiczak

    Szpiczak Member

  15. Schremba

    Schremba Well-Known Member

    I dislike:
    Holy Paladin, since Paladin already depicts holy. Paladin would be enough imo.
    Mage Slayer, since the current name sounds really awesome.
    Pyromancer, since Lina is not completly fire-specific.
    Troll Berserker, since cuurrent one is quite fitting for me.
    Mercenary, since a Bounty Hunter is usually more skilled. Bounty Hunter also fits better to his skills.
    Hellrazer, since it sounds totally over the top. King is not the best fitting, but Hellrazer really sucks imo. Additionally, Leoric has only 1(,5) hell related skill.
    The Gnoll, since I prefer an overhaul.

    However, I think current Shadow Shaman could have another title, since none of his skills is Shadow-related. I also dislike Thrall's current title, since none of his skills have anything to do with Farseeing.
    I don't know anything good for Thrall, but maybe Voodoo Shaman or simply Shaman for Rhasta.
     
  16. Kouganei

    Kouganei Well-Known Member

    To add Leoric's a reference to a diablo boss which is a king
     
  17. SanTa ClaWs

    SanTa ClaWs Well-Known Member

    BTW you put Furion icon on Nortorm - fix it pls.
     
  18. fan.god

    fan.god Well-Known Member

    only furion's, chen's, terrorblade's maybe need to be changed.
    definitely eredar's should be changed, even his name. why didn't u add the thread?
    the rest. leave them be. u should read the thread about the origins of the names: such as Avernus is a Mount in Italy, thought to be the gate to the underworld = awesomely fitting.
    lycanthrope is the original word for werewolf.
     
  19. Duke Nukem

    Duke Nukem Well-Known Member

    I'd suggest Archdruid for Furion.
     
  20. JJE92

    JJE92 Moderator

    Okay here are my comments:

    Omniknight: Sorry, but current one sounds a lot cooler and less generic.

    Sven: Rogue Knight is really unfitting, but I don't like Divine Warrior that much.
    Anti-Mage: Why a name change? Current one is perfect. Mage Slayer sounds worse Imo.

    Juggernaut: Juggernaut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia What's wrong about the name? Again, perfect name (he is a nearly unstoppable force if played correctly), very original, absolutely no problem... Again, Blade Master sounds too generic, pls keep the cool, imaginative and unique names :no:

    Morphling: I think I explained often enough why his current title is awesome and fits perfectly fine at these links, no need to do it again.

    PotM: Not bad, but current one is okay as well. She's just called PotM all the time and this would destroy the reason for this, so it's more classic.

    Zeus: I explained already as well why I prefer the name Zeus (it's just too classic Imo). The title depends on the name you choose.

    Furion: Forest Guardian sounds lame. Archdruid would be awesome, TUp for that.

    Lina: Anime reference. And the Pyromancer doesn't fit to her ultimate. Slayer is a perfect name looking at her combo with the ultimate, although I don't like it that much. If there are better suggestions, I could agree to changing this name.

    Davion: I still prefer Sir Davion over just Davion. It's more unique, absolutely fitting and sounds cooler. http://www.playdota.com/forums/297502/name-change-davion/

    Huskar: Current name fits, but I personally don't really like it. This new name sounds even less cool and more generic though, so for me it's even worse. He's a lot more than just a berserker...

    Leviathan: Current title sounds cooler.

    Gondar: Bounty Hunter sounds cooler and more fitting Imo.

    Ulfsaar: Why? I see no need.

    Techies: Hell freaking no. Why the fuck would you ruin one of the best names in dota?!?

    Visage: Visage is one of the coolest names Imo. I don't get the current title, so I'm not sure, but I like your suggestion partially. Sounds cool, but I'm not sure if it's that fitting.

    Dazzle: Dazzle is an awesome name, though slightly ironic as he's a Shadow Priest, so he can't really dazzle someone. However with his mask, his staff and his skills he can still be dazzling xD TLDR, I really like his name. Your argumentation is like saying a hero shouldn't be named Ben because that's too similar to Sven. It makes no sense at all and isn't a good reason. Shadow Priest is also pretty much okay.

    Leshrac: Oh pls, stop ruining the coolest and most creative names in dota.

    Abba: Wikipedia can be very informative. I think it fits perfectly.

    Lycanthrope: It's called Lycanthropy, so Lycanthrope fits a lot better than simply Lycan Imo.

    Leoric: Hell freaking no. Wtf is this shit seriously... Epic classic perfectly fitting name - he has even a crown on his head - what do you want more?!? Hellrazer just sounds worse and doesn't fit that much.

    Broodmother: Broodmother is a perfect, fitting, creative and cool title, so pls keep that. Name could be changed, but I'm not sure into what. Tsuchigumo sounds kind of unfitting for a spider in wc3 Imo.

    Eredar: I'd go for Gnoll Torturer suggestion: http://www.playdota.com/forums/278005/overhaul-shadow-demon-gnoll-torturer/