Complete the Hero 22

Discussion in 'Hero Ideas' started by fremdlaender, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    lol missed that one
     
  2. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    "One ability has to disable the opponent. This disable has to be invoked in a special way, that does not yet exists in DotA."

    What mean? It looks like same for second secondary challenge

    Edit: Whoops, sorry for double posting
     
  3. fremdlaender

    fremdlaender Well-Known Member

    Ok, that's a bit harder to explain.

    Both secondary challenged (which are optional by the way, you don't have to fulfill them) require your hero to have a disable (stun, slow, etc).

    This means, the disable has to come into effect in a special way, that's not yet present in DotA. I listed the existing 'conditions' in the spoiler.

    For example, Apparition's Cold Feet would fit that requirement (if it wasn't yet in DotA). If you don't leave the AoE during the duration of the spell, you get stunned. No other disable in DotA has this property. (Some might argue, that Light Strike Array and Split Earth share it, but imo, no).

    Means, the disable itself may not be used in DotA yet. Existing types of disables are also listed in the spoiler.

    As types of disables are generally used on more than one hero, I will list a new one here (if you really wanted to use it in your hero, go on. It's not a new idea and I won't suspect you of 'stealing' it here).
    For example, Mind Control (meaning, the ability to control an enemy hero entirely with your commands) would fulfill this challenge.

    I would, however, not recommend to use a Mind Control spell, as it's generally held for way too powerful for DotA.
     
  4. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    Nice, thanks for explaining!
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2012
  5. AmplifyMagic

    AmplifyMagic Well-Known Member

    U completely missed my point, i was referring to the fact that a dragon aspect and a raid boss doesn't quite fit in with the rest of the mortal heroes present in the game.

    If you think Deathwing should level up from scratch to fight on par with a murloc ninja or a quilboar or a pair of goblins, sadly you need a reality check on the powerlevels of our beloved heroes.

    That's not to say he's off boundaries, there are no limits so if you can make it work balance and story/lorewise, by all means give it a go.
     
  6. Famousewok

    Famousewok Well-Known Member

    By the way, does this have to be codeable within the editor? I suppose it does, but can't seem to find anything about it.
     
  7. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    [nqb]
    [​IMG]
    Guardian of Naxxramas
    Saphiron

    [​IMG]
    Saphiron is an intelligence hero who excels at supporting allies or ganking enemies using his combo of Glacial Field and Crystal Ice Spheres to deal massive damage to a single enemy. Since Crystal Ice Spheres deal mix damage and has a mere 8 seconds cooldown, you can spam it and deal damage to magic immune units. Frozen Essence would make a good combo with all the other skills by reducing its magic and physical armor. Its sub-skill helps ensure the stun of Glacial Field and prevents teleporting enemies to flee. With these three skills, it would make a deadly combo. His ultimate, Arctic Storm, synergizes with all the other spells. Although all his combos are easily done, it would require him a lot of mana to make a single combo or two. He never leaves his target dead.

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    Saphiron was a a member of the blue dragonflight. He guarded a treasure in northrend and was slain by Arthas Menethil. He was resurrected by Kel'Thuzad as a Frost Wyrm and served the Citadel's Dread Master, Kel'Thuzad. Saphiron can summon fields of frost and ice at his will. Freezing essence comes out from his body and he can channel frost spheres to deal massive area damage. He can also make devastating storms around himself cutting the vision of those who dare enter the storm.

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    [table=][​IMG]|[table=] Strength: 17 + [1.0]
    Agility: 12 + [1.75]
    Intelligence: 24 + [3.0][/table][/table]

    [table][​IMG]|[​IMG]
    [table]Affiliation:|Scourge/Dire
    Damage:|40-48
    Armor:|1
    Movespeed:|290
    Starting HP/MP:|473/312
    Attack Range:|550[/table]|[table]
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    [/table][/table]

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    [​IMG]
    Glacial Field
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Active
    Targeting: Area
    Hotkey: F[/table]|Creates a glacial field in a large area slowing enemies who enter it. Each second they spend in the field of ice will get their movement and attack speed decreased until immobilized.[/table]
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    [table]Lvl|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|120|35|500|350|9|Slows for 5% at cast and adds 2% more slow each second Until the unit's MS is 100 MS and will get a immobilized.
    2|120|30|500|350|9|Slows for 5% at cast and adds 3% more slow each second Until 100% slowed.
    3|120|25|500|350|9|Slows for 5% at cast and adds 4% more slow each second Until 100% slowed.
    4|120|20|500|350|9|Slows for 5% at cast and adds 5% more slow each second Until 100% slowed.[/table]

    Notes:
    • Gets immobilized only when its MS reaches 100
    • MS is still reduced to 100 during stun but dissipates when the stun is over
    • Immobilized enemies cannot cast spells
    • Immobilized units lasts for 2s
    • A unit can only be affected by stun 'once'

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    Crystal Ice Spheres
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Active
    Targeting: Unit
    Hotkey: E[/table]|Saphiron channels frozen energy for a short duration to release massive damage to a targeted area. The less the speed of the target the more damage it deals but will have less area of effect. Vice versa.[/table]
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    [table]Lvl|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|120|14|700|100-250|N/A|Deals 100-250 primary damage and 20 aoe damage.
    2|140|12|700|150-250|N/A|Deals 150-250 primary damage and 40 aoe damage.
    3|160|10|700|150-300|N/A|Deals 150-300 primary damage and 60 aoe damage.
    4|180|8|700|200-300|N/A|Deals 225-325 primary damage and 80 aoe damage.[/table]

    Notes:
    • Damage Type: Mixed
      AoE Damage Type: Physical
    • Deals max damage and minimum aoe when MS of target is 100 or less and Deals minimum damage and max aoe when MS of target is 522 or higher.
    • Channels for 1.5s


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    Frozen Essence
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Passive
    Targeting: N/A
    Hotkey: R[/table]|Saphiron having used to cold places like Northrend gives Saphiron a cold essence giving chills to nearby enemies decreasing the armor and magic resistance as well as doing the exact opposite on nearby allies. Nearby enemies also gets a chance to take extra physical damage and places a shatter buff whenever they are hit by a spell.[/table]
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    [table]Lvl|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|N/A|N/A|N/A|450|5|Increases/Decreases 2 armor and 2% magic resistance. 10% chance to deal 40 extra damage.
    2|N/A|N/A|N/A|500|5|Increases/Decreases 3 armor and 4% magic resistance. 15% chance to deal 70 extra damage.
    3|N/A|N/A|N/A|550|5|Increases/Decreases 4 armor and 6% magic resistance. 20% chance to deal 100 extra damage.
    4|N/A|N/A|N/A|600|5|Increases/Decreases 5 armor and 8% magic resistance. 25% chance to deal 130 extra damage.[/table]

    Notes:
    • Damage type: Physical.
    • Buff duration refreshes after getting affected again
    • Shatter
      [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Active
      Targeting: Passive
      Hotkey: T[/table]|Saphiron shatters all units with the shatter buff dealing damage and ministuns them.[/table]
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      [table]Lvl|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
      1|75|5|N/A|N/A|0.1|Deals 30 damage[/table]

      Notes:
      • Damage Type: Physical



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    Arctic Storm
    [table][​IMG]|[table]Type: Active
    Targeting: Instant
    Hotkey: C[/table]|Saphiron releases his full potential creating massive snow storm in the area around him and cutting the visions of the enemies affected of the storm from its allies around the map. Also deals damage per second to enemies caught in the storm.[/table]
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    [table]Lvl|Mana|Cooldown|Range|AoE|Duration|Effects
    1|200|100|N/A|400|3s|Deals 100 dps. 10% slow
    2|300|100|N/A|400|4s|Deals 120 dps. 10% slow
    3|400|100|N/A|400|5s|Deals 140 dps. 10% slow[/table]

    Notes:
    • Damage type: magical.
    • Enemy units' vision will remain the same except they will lose vision on allies.
    [/nqb]

    [nqb][tab]X|Change-Log|Credits
    {|}
    Change Log
    04-03-2012
    -Posted Hero (WIP)
    -Entered Hero on contest

    04-04-2012
    -Finished Hero

    04-08-2012
    -Tweak First skill
    -Changed third skill icon
    -Completely reworked second skill
    -Reworked third skill
    -Added change log tab
    -Added credits tab

    04-14-2012
    -Tweaked first skill

    04-22-2012
    -Updated BG story
    -Reworked second skill
    -Tweaked ulti

    04-30-2012
    -Updated template(Hope its better :))
    -Added Intro
    -Replaced first skill icon
    -Tweaked stats{|}
    Credits

    -O_xD for the template
    -People at hive workshop for the icons
    -NoThlnG for listing out unused models so that we can use the models
    -All who reviewed my hero[/tab][/nqb]​


    [table]Primary Challenge: |Saphiron
    Secondary Challenge: |First skill[/table]​
     
    Last edited: May 1, 2012
  8. Klagger

    Klagger Well-Known Member

    Just need to know that this creature [​IMG] can be used as this main challenge modal??

    It does not have any lore.
    I get this picture from here...http://www.wowpedia.org/Forsaken
     
  9. r3dman

    r3dman Well-Known Member

    Read that sugg, if you think the God of Death himself should lvlup on par with a murloc, a wisp or a witch doctor...

    http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498097&highlight=Hades

    Read it. It is really awesome and kinda (?) balanced, in the way hes not OP.
     
  10. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    If it's a basic unit like let's say a ghoul then, NO! If it's somewhat in the story just like Engineer Gazlowe(in warcraft bonus campaign) but even though he's not important, then his model is allowed but unfortunately his model is taken by techies. Is my explanation right fremdlaender?
     
  11. AmplifyMagic

    AmplifyMagic Well-Known Member

    The difference between Deathwing and your random suggestion "Hades" is that Deathwing is a well established lore figure present in Azeroth. Not only is he a titan blessed dragon aspect, he is also a powerful raidboss a whole expansion is based around.
    If you think you could compare the earth shattering dragon to a non existent hero suggestion that no one cares about, you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
    Your argument holds no value because you keep referring to Hades, which in fact has no connection to Azeroth.

    If you're going to compare heroes, atleast compare heroes that are relevant, like the implemented champions already present ingame to that of the legends of Azeroth.
     
  12. Klagger

    Klagger Well-Known Member

    i really confusing now...TT
    So what modal can i use as this main challenge.I cant find a suitable modal.
    Can you help me to list out?? I need a shadow type modal.
     
  13. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    Deathwing? maybe?
    A dreadlord is a possibility(not balanar's model)

    That's all I can think of right now. Sorry If I made you confused.
     
  14. Klagger

    Klagger Well-Known Member

    DeathWing?? A website?? No, is mot your fault , is mine :)
    Anyways thx for helping me
     
  15. cluGAmERsy

    cluGAmERsy Well-Known Member

    Website? What are you talking about?
     
  16. darkseraphim

    darkseraphim Well-Known Member

    My Entry:

    Download test map here.
    [NQB]

    [​IMG]
    Firelord
    Ragnaros
    [table=old]625|/|260[/table]

    [TABLE=old]Strength|||||-Agility||||Intelligence[/TABLE]

    [​IMG]_____[​IMG]_____[​IMG]

    [TABLE=old]25 + 2.5|||||-13 + 1.2|||||20 + 2.3[/TABLE]


    [​IMG]

    [TABLE=old][GOANCHOR=S1][​IMG][/GOANCHOR]||[GOANCHOR=S1]Sulfur Storm[/GOANCHOR]||
    [GOANCHOR=S2][​IMG][/GOANCHOR]||[GOANCHOR=S2]Explosive Slam[/GOANCHOR]||
    [GOANCHOR=S3][​IMG][/GOANCHOR]||[GOANCHOR=S3]Elemental Fury[/GOANCHOR]||
    [GOANCHOR=S4][​IMG][/GOANCHOR]||[GOANCHOR=S4]Lava Pillar (Challenge Skill)[/GOANCHOR]||[/TABLE]​

    [NQB][​IMG][​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]Affiliation:| Neutral | _____ | Attack Animation:|0.5 / 0.5
    Damage:|59 - 63||Casting Animation:|0.0 / 0.0
    Armor:|3.86||Base Attack Time:|1.7
    Movespeed:|300||Missile Speed:|900;
    Attack Range:|; Melee||Sight Range:|1800 / 800[/TABLE]​
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]|[/TABLE]​
    [​IMG][​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]|[/TABLE]​
    [/NQB]

    [​IMG]

    [A=S1][NQB][TABLE=old][​IMG]||Sulfur Storm_________||
    ||Ability Type:||Active
    ||Targets:||No target
    ||Ability Hotkey:||[/TABLE]

    [​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]Level||
    Mana Cost​
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    Cooldown​
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    Casting Range​
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    Area of Effect​
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    Duration​
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    Allowed Targets​
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    Effects​

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    No target​
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    No target​
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    No target​
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    4​
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    No target​
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    [/TABLE]

    Notes
    • Note
    [/NQB][/A]

    [A=S2][NQB][TABLE=old][​IMG]||Explosive Slam_________||
    ||Ability Type:||Active
    ||Targets:||No target
    ||Ability Hotkey:||[/TABLE]

    [​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]Level||
    Mana Cost​
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    Cooldown​
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    Casting Range​
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    Area of Effect​
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    Duration​
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    Allowed Targets​
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    Effects​

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    No target​
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    No target​
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    4​
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    No target​
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    [/TABLE]

    Notes
    • Note
    [/NQB][/A]

    [A=S3][NQB][TABLE=old][​IMG]||Elemental Fury_________||
    ||Ability Type:||Active
    ||Targets:||No target
    ||Ability Hotkey:||[/TABLE]

    [​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]Level||
    Mana Cost​
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    Cooldown​
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    Casting Range​
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    Area of Effect​
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    Duration​
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    Allowed Targets​
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    No target​
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    [/TABLE]

    Notes
    • Note
    [/NQB][/A]

    [A=S4][NQB][TABLE=old][​IMG]||Lava Pillar _________||
    ||Ability Type:||Active
    ||Targets:||No target
    ||Ability Hotkey:||F[/TABLE]

    [​IMG]
    [TABLE=old]Level||
    Mana Cost​
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    Cooldown​
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    Casting Range​
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    Area of Effect​
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    Duration​
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    3​
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    No target​
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    [/TABLE]

    Notes
    • Note
    [/NQB][/A]

    [/NQB]


    Reviewed by:
    • None
    Template by The][nquisitor.
    Made using Saguine's Hero Maker
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2012
  17. Klagger

    Klagger Well-Known Member

    Sorry for misunderstood...well can this shade be the one who important ??

    http://www.wowpedia.org/Shade
     
  18. fremdlaender

    fremdlaender Well-Known Member

    Would be appreciated. I myself deduct a few points if something is not codeable, because then it has no point being suggested.
    You can, however, ask if your suggestion is codeable, I will answer that.

    @Klagger
    I guess the picture is from the TGC? As it is just a 'random' forsaken, no.
    I also know no Shade, that would fit to the main challenge.

    You have to find a suitable character in the WC3 universe, not just a type of units. For example, if you found a banshee, that is important to within the warcraft universe, it would be allowed to use that picture you posted (sadly, there is none, except maybe Sylvanas, but that's a special case).

    Thinking of a 'shadow being' as you describe it, there is at the moment really no character, that comes to my mind, I'm sorry.
     
  19. Klagger

    Klagger Well-Known Member

    Arh.... anyway thx you for the explanation ^^…
    I might not going to join this though...
     
  20. darkseraphim

    darkseraphim Well-Known Member

    Is non-targetability codeable? Example, Unit cannot be targeted by anything, but may still take damage from AoE spells. I'm guessing it would be like Astral Imprisonment, but would there be another way?